Opened 9 years ago

Last modified 6 years ago

#867 new defect

revise "document" and "manuscript" item types

Reported by: erazlogo Owned by: dstillman
Priority: major Milestone:
Component: data layer Version: 1.5
Keywords: schema-update Cc: bdarcus, ajlyon

Description (last modified by erazlogo)

Possible steps to fix this (would need revision in CSL as well as Zotero)

  1. Document:

a) rename as "published document"

b) add "place" - to enter place of creation/publication

c) add "type" - to enter the type of document

d) set "published document" as a fallback for all published documents instead of "book" because there have been problems with "book" as a fallback

  1. Manuscript

a) rename as "unpublished document"

b) add "institution" field, to enter the name of the institution where, say, a working paper was drafted (but not published), for example:

  1. Clark, “Should the IMF Become More Adaptive?” Working Paper WP/96/11 (Washington, DC: International Monetary Fund, 1996).

http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch17/ch17_sec355.html

c) add "number" field to number working papers:

Ferber, R. “Family decision-making and economic behavior.” Faculty Working Paper 35. College of Commerce and Business Administration, Univ. of Urbana-Champaign, 1971.

c) set "unpublished document" as a fallback for all unpublished documents

Change History (9)

comment:1 Changed 9 years ago by dstillman

  • Version changed from 1.0 to 1.5

comment:2 Changed 9 years ago by erazlogo

  • Cc bdarcus added
  • Description modified (diff)
  • Summary changed from add necessary fields to "document" item type to revise "document" and "manuscript" item types

Revised the description to suggest revisions that make most sense to me but this should be resolved w/ Bruce before deciding on a final solution. See also a relevant forum request.

comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by erazlogo

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by dstillman

  • Keywords schema-update added

comment:5 Changed 6 years ago by bdarcus

So from a BIBO and CSL perspective only, the proposed distinction isn't really necessary. E.g. I don't see why Elena wrote we'd "would need revision in CSL as well."

From a Zotero UI perspective, am not sure it makes sense. For example, if a publisher was treated more like a contributor, where you could select the different roles ("Publisher", "Issuing Institution", etc.) then you wouldn't need different type templates.

In other words, I'm in favor of making the existing type templates more flexible, and only adding new types if that isn't sufficient.

comment:6 Changed 6 years ago by erazlogo

Bruce--
Since this was added, many things changed in CSL and Zotero--i.e. fallbacks are no longer part of Frank's new Zotero citation tool. Thus it is no longer necessary to rename these item types and make them fallbacks. We should add the fields, however.
Elena

comment:7 Changed 6 years ago by ajlyon

  • Cc ajlyon added

Please take a look at https://github.com/ajlyon/zotero-bits/wiki/Zotero-types-whiteboard and see whether I have correctly captured the spirit of the discussion here re: Document and Manuscript.

And Elena, I'd like to add you to the Github repository to edit that types proposal but you don't seem to have a Github account.

comment:8 Changed 6 years ago by erazlogo

Just registered on Github--please add me to the repository. The whiteboard includes all relevant suggestions from this ticket I think. Thanks! Elena

comment:9 Changed 6 years ago by dstillman

  • Milestone 2.0 Beta 3 deleted

Milestone 2.0 Beta 3 deleted

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